Posts by cha ching

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How do I get the COBE to pay back the money he and his ripped off from my ex-wife, he's the guy who claims he make's Pedophiles Holy by YHWH's power!

by PhilsWager2 in

the cobe of the local kingdom hall never paid my ex-wife for the work done because they promised they would use "trade" to reimburse close to $5000 worth of work.

as you can imagine nobody here would like him because he believes all the pedophiles can change their ways after the child sex offenders have proved their humility by bowing before the judicial committees.

this is how honest jehovah's witnesses are, they changed her work from a 1200 sq.

cha ching

Dear Phil.......

It is hard, it is crazy, it is real.... The same type of thing has happened to many people. Don't get yourself in worse circumstances by doing something rash. It may seem like the best, but if it ends up hurting your family emotionally (it didn't work, you get attacked/ disappointed) or monetarily (you get sued for liable)

If these people are such deceivers, then they know how to work the system.

Don't call Bethel, you will get NO help. That is the sad realization you will come to. In fact, you may even become the focus of an "internal investigation." We have seen behind the scenes, read the court cases where WT lawyers say one thing here, another thing there, and have no morals as to "righteousness." You will be hurt even more.

Spend your time developing your family bonds, life and connections. These are the things that will endure.

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Christianity: The most deceptive religion

by opusdei1972 in

jesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.

but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.

interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????

cha ching

Really, it is sad how religion has used people, and deceived them....

If you were God, why make a book that everyone MUST figure out, that is HARD to figure out, and then get MAD at your 'kids' for not 'figuring it out'?

If it were really that important, it should be simple and easy.

That would be true love.

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The 1919 issue

by confused in

i am not a regular visitor to this site, every now and then then i get twisted up about something i come back lol.

i am sure this has been discussed many times so a link to another thread would be great or if someone has the patience to explain again please?

i have read the july 15 2013 wt many times but i simply don't understand the significance of 1919 from the bible.

cha ching

1919 was a convenient date that was able to be used by the WT numerologists to prove that they absolutely were the "faithful and discreet slave." They simply took advantage of different events "Wow we had conventions everywhere, that relates to the book of Revelation ..." (the trumpets, or something) (I don't want to remember how this morning) and the 3 and a half years, and the "sometimes years are literal, sometimes they are symbolic" and "a short time means this" ....... Have I blown your brain yet? Perfect WT style, right? The higher ups were released from prison after 'a short time'.... in 1919.

Without 1919, or ANY kind of ANYthing..... they have no authority....

This is the mental shell game the WT has been playing for years. ;-)

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Introducing myself

by Bill Covert in

it was suggested that i do a post of introducing myself rather than just starting to do posting.

i am one of those viet nam war felons who had to refuse community service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions of wbts.

my mother was from a old time jw family in the calif. bay area the "garigs".

cha ching

Welcome... very interesting, tell us more... ChaChing

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New arrangement from C.O.

by Doctor Who in

i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

visit about 2 months ago.

during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

cha ching

When we were going, 2011/2012 (?) everyone had access to "the code." It did not change every week, it stayed the same. At first, when they actually got another phone line, about only 2 or 3 people could 'call in.' But when they expanded, the amount of callers was limitless. Soooooo many people called in, haha, that is why they probably started restricting!

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

cha ching

Good job! Your tenacious spirit will serve you well! Your parents should be PROUD of you, to be able to work two jobs, go to college, and all on your OWN!

When my husband and I were young, in the 70's, we were told "you don't need to go to college, before you can finish, or use your education, Armageddon will be here".... So, we didn't go to college, and Armageddon is not here. Both of us are fortunate to have been hard workers, good savers and planners, and so hopefully, we shall be able to live out our lives with some level of security when we "retire."

Remember to cherish the little things ;-) Write poetry to express your feelings (make sure you date it, and if it's 'cryptic' be sure to write the meaning of it afterwards, haha.... one day, you will enjoy it)

Yep, you are young! No one can say you "didn't do your research", right? You have read more than almost all JW's... Have confidence that you have made the right choice... When I read "The Finished Mystery", by Charles T Russell, I wept. I could not believe how very stupid it was. Based on numerology, pyramids and weird folk tales. I cried. If only I had read that when young.

Don't forget to have fun! Sing, dance, play sports, see plays, travel!

Welcome, ChaChing!

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New arrangement from C.O.

by Doctor Who in

i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

visit about 2 months ago.

during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

cha ching

Wow! Does the code change with each meeting? Is that how they control who does and doesn't listen?

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Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

by flipper in

as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

cha ching

Ashe is a higher up in the Service Department, he gave a deposition saying, 'spiritual protection is what elders do, physical protection is what secular authorities are for'..... Basically, he said "if you want physical protection, go to the police" but in reality, most JW's will not go to police/ secular authorities in an attempt to " keep Jehovah's name from being reproached".... when REALLY, it is a reproach when children are not protected physically.

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behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

by Magnum in

i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

i really cared about the people in the field.

i thought their lives were in danger.

cha ching

It's funny, I always knew it was about 'moving literature', but I guess I thought "it's good to get things off the shelf" and "it's bad to throw away perfectly good books" (didn't you feel guilty when you trashed all the old WT's and AW's that had just gotten way over your head after 10 or 15 years, and you knew there just weren't enough laundromats to distribute them, or enough time in a century) "It's not good to waste things, right?"

Thank you Magnum, for that perspective.... it SHOULD have been about helping people....plain and simple.

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Richard Ashe Court Deposition - " Let elders handle child abuse- don't talk about it "

by flipper in

as some of you know i was given pdf files of much of the conti and lopez child abuse court cases and asked from a friend to peruse through it and post some excerpts on the board here that may have been missed or not addressed in the pbs newshour report or the abc news nightline report.

so after going through this richard ashe testimony i feel i found something quite interesting that exposes the real attitudes of the wt society leaders towards child abuse and the attitudes wt leaders put into it's appointed men's minds as well.

the viewpoint that richard ashe displays is repeated in elders throughout thousands of jw congregations on this planet.

cha ching

Yes, it "may not be in your best interest " to talk about it....

meaning? "You might get DF'd if you do! Beware!"